T20 - Porn - C 6 - Also Dating, Sex, Relationship Theories, Opinions, Frustrations.....
There is no porn. The new viewpoint about porn is that it's just pictures (images) of people having sex. Nothing more, nothing less. The new term is NORP: natural orgasmically relating people. NORP is designed for titillation or fantasy and has zero moral or ethical value, not negative, not positive: zero, therefore having no reverse social or religious implications for adults. Are titillation and fantasy acceptable modes of behavior for people? Of course. Does NORP have any effect on peoples' expectations? Only for the retarded or psychotic, the inexperienced or, perhaps, children. Children ought not view NORP. The inexperienced ought to dabble lightly until they build reasonable social and interpersonal perspective. As far as sex and our culture's religions go, the negitivization of sex is a twisted, sick attitude designed to lower peoples' self esteem and manipulate them for religions' own purposes (which usually means, bottom line, getting peoples' money). I could go on and on. This is the tip of the iceberg however, going on and on would only give credence to the controversy of porn and in the new NORP thinking there is no controversy.
1) Sex is good (goodness). We are here because of sex. We are good people.
2) NORP are good. So are images of NORP.
3) ...see other people's comments...
Anti-NORP:
1) Western religions.
2) Prudes.
3) Control freaks.
4) ...see other people's comments...
posted by Russ | 5:08 AM
10 Comments:
Russ
Porn is depictions of people having sex. The best porn borders on art or at least on the edge of being able to portray a bit of relationship, feeling and, at the most enjoyable, humor.
Is it damaging? In a social sense? in so far as it (is said to) wean men away from their proper path in life: relationships? I don't think so except for men who are already anti-social or psychopathic. Everyone other than those types and also other than religious types, sees porn as titillating fantasy. It doesn't interfere with their usual seeking of relationships, communication and intimacy.
Education: porn educates us all somewhat to the multi-leveled expertise which we all would like to have applied to us from both the male and female points of view. Granted, the viewer has to be open to learning and observant enough to pick up a tip or two now and then.
In general in my life I've found that women have little idea of how to please and ultimately satisfy a man and the women I know say the same thing about the men they've known. It's very simple. Men are lustful creatures. They vibrate with lust. This is not to say that lust is their sole domain. Bottom line is lust drives them. Why do you think all the religionists are so against lust? They feel out of control. So they regulate against lust in order to control themselves. Women, cater to lust. And you men, keep lust in perspective else suffer disappointment. Perspective is King. Women are feeling creatures. Emotions. Make an experience for them pleasingly and fulfillingly emotional, filled with sensitivity and caring. Sexual fulfillment follows. For the most part both enjoy good porn unless they've been imprinted negatively, which is sad - like ducklings who first meet a creature who absolutely does not have their best interests at heart.
Is porn good for people? Yes. Of course there is bad porn, too. Bad porn is like a bad movie or a bad book. We write it off and don't recommend it. Eventually it disappears. Good porn is something we keep around for repeat performances.
I saw an advertisement synopsis for a book called, “Porn Generation:” it said “Pornography is everywhere. It presents a warped image of sex and self-satisfaction that ridicules the values of faith and family, and mangles the sacred ideals of matrimony. This powerful wake-up call tells what we must do now to eradicate this scourge and reclaim the values that made America great.” $27.95 list.
How did porn get so much power?
Russ
Porn is depictions of people having sex. The best porn borders on art or at least on the edge of being able to portray a bit of relationship, feeling and, at the most enjoyable, humor.
Is it damaging? In a social sense? in so far as it (is said to) wean men away from their proper path in life: relationships? I don't think so except for men who are already anti-social or psychopathic. Everyone other than those types and also other than religious types, sees porn as titillating fantasy. It doesn't interfere with their usual seeking of relationships, communication and intimacy.
Education: porn educates us all somewhat to the multi-leveled expertise which we all would like to have applied to us from both the male and female points of view. Granted, the viewer has to be open to learning and observant enough to pick up a tip or two now and then.
In general in my life I've found that women have little idea of how to please and ultimately satisfy a man and the women I know say the same thing about the men they've known. It's very simple. Men are lustful creatures. They vibrate with lust. This is not to say that lust is their sole domain. Bottom line is lust drives them. Why do you think all the religionists are so against lust? They feel out of control. So they regulate against lust in order to control themselves. Women, cater to lust. And you men, keep lust in perspective else suffer disappointment. Perspective is King. Women are feeling creatures. Emotions. Make an experience for them pleasingly and fulfillingly emotional, filled with sensitivity and caring. Sexual fulfillment follows. For
the most part both enjoy good porn unless they've been imprinted negatively, which is sad - like ducklings who first meet a creature who absolutely does not have their best interests at heart.
Is porn good for people? Yes. Of course there is bad porn, too. Bad porn is like a bad movie or a bad book. We write it off and don't recommend it. Eventually it disappears. Good porn is something we keep around for repeat performances.
Sandy from Milwaukee
I think that men and women are frustrated by each other because they project onto
the other their own sexual and emotional needs and when they don’t actually find
them reflected back or expressed towards them, they feel varying disappointments
and dissatisfactions. The obvious answer to this is to improve one’s communications
skills but it takes years, even decades to do this and in the meantime life can be a
struggle, fluctuating between hope and despair.
Dan from Chicago
It doesn’t help. Improving one’s communications skills. I’ve taught myself to verbalize what I want and I’m still rejected ninety five percent of the time. Communication is no magic bullet. I did a test: for three months I tried to pick up women while communicating my desires clearly and reasonably, being tactfully direct and not lying. For the next three months I behaved in my usual fashion: used repetitive ‘lines,’ some humor, some fabrications (lies) and made more of myself than I really deserve (I’m an average guy with an average income and an okay job). The results? In my first three communicating months I picked up two women who both appreciated my directness and communicativeness about my sexual desires. During the second three months I picked up ten women. Most of them seemed to enjoy my company with a couple of exceptions. The thing is, I enjoyed myself more when I was expressing myself truly but how can I go back to that behavior when it’s not as productive? So I guess I’ll save it until I get married. In the meantime I’m the guy that women complain about but go home with at the end of the night much more frequently than the good communicator. The whole scene is pathetic.
A friend from NYC
My friend, you forget or maybe you don’t know that people in the dating scene are more comfortable with lies than truth. Everyone expects lies so when they hear sincerity it takes them by surprise. Surprise is enough to throw a delicate situation off balance. Off-balance creates various other problems, like embarrassment. Nuff
said?
Everyone is there for the same reasons: finding connections with other people they find attractive in one way or another. ‘Connection’ means relating on mental/emotional levels and sex which is also a form of intimacy.
It’s not what you’re saying that’s being judged. Words almost don’t count especially if everyone knows they’re mostly lies and looks through them. What counts is the quality of your voice, your general appearance, the muscles in your face and around
your eyes when you smile and your confidence although that last one can be worked around.
Women have the culturally and biologically formed conflict between ‘good girl’ and ‘bad girl’ moralities (behaviors). They also have selection and control issues. Selection of who or which one. Control because they don’t want a psycho on their hands.
The scene isn’t pathetic - it’s difficult. The persons who can handle the difficulties best will come out on top... or bottom, or both.
So hone your appreciation of the problems that EVERYONE is having. You can even make it humorous or a topic of conversation. Then, even if you don’t get the woman or man you have your sights on, you’ll still have some fun. Lose the frustration, the desperation and the anger. If you can’t, well,... those are some of the things that makes it difficult.
A good way to start a conversation is to ask someone, “What do ya think of all this?”
Rod from LA
Regarding the symbolism/meaning of the ‘money shot.’
I think it’s representative of several things: satisfaction, completion, the end of a short story. It’s a visual signal that makes these apparent, unlike a woman cumming, which is a little more difficult to recognize or even know if it’s genuine on film. NORP is pretty much a formula presentation with an expected outcome. Starts out, builds and then there’s release of sexual tension. The money shot is a statement of release and completion. People watching also want to feel that everyone involved in the video gets a sense of satisfaction because it makes for a more satisfying and agreeable norp experience for them, too. Often the woman in the video is clearly acting, some better than others, and not having an orgasm (which is sometimes true in real life). One would think that this would work against the idea that everyone in the film is getting satisfaction but it doesn’t because our understanding of womens’ natures makes us all believe that she’s getting satisfaction through the emotional situation of intimacy and the enjoyment and power of pleasing the man (which is often true in real life for both women and men). So, overall, the venue works okay. My Wife likes norp and she can identify with the money shot emotionally so the whole experience, with decent actors/actresses and storied situations, is okay for her.
Felicia from Santa Barbara
I can’t wait until the ‘money shots’ of women, which are still trivialized by the use of the term ‘squirters’ when referring to women who ejaculate, make more and more inroads into norp. If the male ‘money shot’ into womens’ faces and onto their bodies is some kind of male ego satisfaction or symbol of possession as some of my male friends have told me, then a female ‘money shot’ is something I’d like to see more of so its symbolism could be explored within the fantasy of norp media. Some of these same men have expressed queasiness about this to me so I question whether the female ‘money shot’ can ever become a mainstream image in these films. However, on the positive side, my boyfriend LIKES IT when I cum on his face. Sometimes I even do it from my top position by leaping onto his chest after being face to face. I love the many looks on his face when I do it and really get my rocks off.
Steve from Louisville
NORP? Natural orgasmic relating people? Have to do better than that. I like the term ‘NORP’ because it has the same letters as ‘PORN’ but the letters have to represent better words.
MTC
I see where you’re coming from.
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